So Im hoping. To be swallowed And poetry doesnt really allow you to do that because its working in the smallest units of sound and syllable and clause and line break and then the sentence. And now Tippett has done it again. We want to rise to what is beautiful and life-giving. On Being with Krista Tippett | 5 minute podcast summaries on Apple . All year, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. Definitely. to pick with whoever is in charge. I cannot reverse it, the record I could be both an I You will hear the voices of wise and graceful lives of former guests, and of listeners from far-flung places. Yet whats most stunning is how presciently and exquisitely Ocean spoke, and continues to speak, to the world we have since come to inhabit its heartbreak and its poetry, its possibilities for loss and for finding new life. But something I started thinking, with this frame, really, this sense of homecoming and our belonging in the natural world runs all the way through every single one of your poems. We know joy to be a life-giving, resilience-making human birthright. A scholar of belonging. A scholar of magic. She grew up loving science fiction, and thought wed be driving flying cars by now; and yet, has found in speculative fiction the transformative force of vision and imagination that might in fact save us. Woodworking and the meaning of life. Tippett: Its that Buddhist, the finger pointing at the moon, right? I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. Before the ceramics in the garbage. Also: Kristin Brogdon, Lindsey Siders, Brad Kern, John Marks, Emery Snow and the entire staff at both Northrop and the Ted Mann Concert Hall of the University of Minnesota. It is still the river. We inhabit a liminal time between what we thought we knew and what we cant quite yet see. water, enough sorrow, enough of the air and its ease, So at this point in my notes, I have three words in bold with exclamation points. But when we talk about the limitations of language in general, I find language is so strange. and the one that is so relieved to finally be home. enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough If youre having trouble writing or creating or whatever it is you make, when was the last time you just sat in silence with yourself and listened to what was happening? The truth is, Ive never cared for the National, Anthem. and gloss. Dont get me wrong, I do But I want you to read it second, because what I found in Bright Dead Things, which was a couple of years before that, certainly pre-pandemic, in the before times, was the way you wrote, a way that you spoke of the same story of yourself. Tippett: Thats so wonderful. If youre having trouble writing or creating or whatever it is you make, when was the last time you just sat in silence with yourself and listened to what was happening? Because how do we care for one another? And that feels like its an active thing as opposed to a finished thing, a closed thing. Theres a lot of different People. We want to do that where we live, and we want to do it walking alongside others.. I really love . I mean, even that question you asked, What am I supposed to do with all that silence? Thats one way to talk about the challenge of being human and walking through a life. And were at a new place, but we have to carry and process that. You should take a nap. [laughter] I know its cruel. To be made whole Discoveries about the gut microbiome, for example, and the gut-brain axis; the fascinating vagus nerve and the power of the neurotransmitters we hear about in piecemeal ways in discussions around mental health. podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. We can forget this. Limn: Yeah. And I kept thinking how I missed all my family, and I missed my father and his wife, and I missed my mother and stepfather. Tippett: Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. And honestly, this feels to me like if I were teaching a college class, I would have somebody read this poem and say, Discuss.. whats larger within us, toward how we were born. by even the ageless woods, the shortgrass plains, the Red River Gorge, the fistful of land left. If you would like to hear an uplifting message at a time of global difficulty, come hear Krista Tippett speak at Central Congregational Church in Providence RI at 6:30 pm, Saturday, December 3. In fact, my mother is and was an atheist. But its about more than that. I have a lot of poems that basically are that. And now we have watched it in these 25 years go from strength, to strength, to strength. No, really I was. I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. Okay. Our closing music was composed by Gautam Srikishan. Tippett: So can we just engage in this intellectual exercise with you because its completely fascinating and Im not sure whats going on, and Id like you to tell me. Right now we are in a fast river together every day there are changes that seemed unimaginable until they occurred. adrienne maree brown and others use many words and phrases to describe what she does, and who she is: A student of complexity. As we turn the corner from pandemic, although we will not completely turn the corner, I just wanted to read something you wrote on Twitter, which was hilarious. on all sides with want. Written and read by Would you read this poem, The End of Poetry, which I feel speaks to that a bit. And I always thought it was just because I had to work. That just took me back to this moment in the pandemic where I took so many walks in my neighborhood that Ive lived in for so many years and saw things Id never seen before, including these massive Just suddenly looking down where the trees were and seeing and understanding, just really having this moment where I understood that its their neighborhood and Im living in it. I am asking you to touch me. And you mentioned that when you wrote this, when was it that you wrote it? hoping our team wins. I feel like the short poem, maybe read that one, the After the Fire poem is such a wonderful example of so much of what weve been talking about, how poetry can speak to something that is impossible to speak about. In fact, my mother is and was an atheist. Tippett: I love that. If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. Tippett: Which also makes it spiritual practice. This definitely speaks to that. whats larger within us, toward how we were born. are your bones, and your bones are my bones. And it felt like this is the language of reciprocity. And were at a new place, but we have to carry and process that. This conversation shines a light on an emerging ecosystem in our world over and against the drumbeat of what is fractured and breaking: working with the complex fullness of reality, and cultivating old and new ways of seeing, to move towards a transformative wholeness of living. But then I just examine all the different ways of being quiet. I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and the Art of Living by Krista Tippe at the best online prices at eBay! and snowshoes, maple and seeds, samara and shoot, I remember having this experience I was sort of very deeply alone during the early days of the pandemic when my husbands work brought him to another state. and isnt that enough? But I think theres so much in this poem thats about that idea that the thesis thats returned to the river. like water, elemental, and best when its humbled, brought to its knees, clung to by someone who. I remember writing this poem because I really love the word lover, and its a kind of polarizing word. It touches almost every aspect of human life in almost every society around the world right now. I think this poem, for me, is very much about learning to find a home and a sense of belonging in a world where being at peace is actually frowned upon. sometimes buried without even a song. And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. Once, I sang it at homecoming and threw And if its weekly, theres a day of the week and you do it. I think we all came a little bit more alive. Each of us imprints the people in the world around us, breath to breath and hour to hour, as much in who we are and how we are present as in whatever we do. I was like, Oh. Then I came downstairs and I was like, Lucas, Im never going to get to be Poet Laureate.. Theres this poem which Ive never heard anybody ask you to read called Where the Circles Overlap, Tippett: In The Hurting Kind. How to make that more vibrant, more visible, and more defining? [laughs] Oh my. The notion of frontier inner frontiers, outer frontiers weaves through this hour. We speak the language of questions. I get four parents that come to the school nights. And I felt like I was not brave enough to own that for myself. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. Supporting organizations and initiatives that uphold a sacred relationship with life on Earth. And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine.. The poets brain is always like that, but theres a little I was just doing the wash, and I was like, Casual, warm, and normal. And I was like, Ooh, I could really go for that.. Limn: Yeah. and hand, the space between. And for us, it was Sundays. wind? It unfolded at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis, in collaboration with Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Ada Limns publisher, Milkweed Editions. that thered be nothing left in you, like In a political and cultural space that rewards certainty, ferments argument, and hastens closure, we nourish and resource the interplay between inner life, outer life, and life together. The On Being Project And Im not sure Ive had a conversation across all these years that was a more unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief. Many have turned to David Whyte for his gorgeous, life-giving poetry and his wisdom at the interplay of theology, psychology, and leadership his insistence on the power of a beautiful question and of everyday words amidst the drama of work as well as the drama of life. Tippett: So the poem you wrote, Joint Custody. You get asked to read it. Tippett: So I love it when I feel like the conversations Im having start to be in conversation with each other. And I feel like theres a level of mystery thats allowed in the poem that feels like, Okay, I can maybe read this into it, I can put myself into it, and it becomes sort of its own thing. And so I think my investigation or my curiosity is not so much talking about poetry, but about where poetry comes from in us and what poetry works in us. 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